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Sara Mayer: [00:00:00] Welcome to the bold goal crusher podcast for anyone looking to stop letting life get in the way and start crushing bold goals. I'm your host, Sara Mayer, and I'm thrilled to navigate this journey with you because it's time to start boldly achieving without working double time. So
Sara Mayer: Hello, bold goal crushers. I'm super excited about this episode because I think you are absolutely going to love my guest. So Sharon O'Sullivan Fung is the founder of O'Sullivan Fung executive assistant services. And she shifted from teaching To entrepreneurship, to support her family. So despite no prior experience, she built a successful company in fractional executive assistance, emphasizing authentic networking and bringing value to networking partners, advocating B2B [00:01:00] strategy and family first principles.
Sara Mayer: Her journey inspires resilience and professional autonomy. And her story motivates others to navigate. Challenges and carve their path to success. So I'm very excited to have you on the show today, Sharon. I just love your story and journey. Thank you. Thanks, Sarah. Glad to be here. I always love a good story, so I'd love to hear what happened that made you jump from whatever you were doing to into a world of something that you had no experience in.
Sara Mayer: How did this come about?
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: So yeah, I I started my professional life as a teacher. Really always knew that was always what I wanted to do. I remember I had a little bit of a, towards the end of high school, I was I had a little bit of a wobble where I thought maybe I'll do something else.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: And then I came right back to teaching, which is basically what I wanted to do since I was in kindergarten. And [00:02:00] worked as a teacher for eight years. Worked in Ireland for five years as a spec ed resource teacher. Then I worked in Santa Monica, Los Angeles for three years as a classroom teacher.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: And then I got married, had my first baby and moved to Canada, which is where we are now. And so I did take a break. I homeschooled my kids for a little bit. Then got back into the education sphere in 2020, funnily enough. And I actually went in then as an educational assistant. I didn't expect to go back into education actually, after I became a mom, I thought I wouldn't want to do that because I found that I poured so much energy into teaching.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: I, I thought I would prefer to reserve that for my kids. When I had the opportunity to do a part time position, I was, I loved it. I was so excited to be back. In the school and especially, during the time when nobody was traveling, it was great. I was enjoying being in the school but in the period where [00:03:00] I was working part time, it was still COVID regulations were still there.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: During that period, my dad actually was diagnosed with dementia and I, yeah. And so I always traveled home quite often and in the back of my mind, I was like, okay I'm working in a school now, if I work enough, I'll still be able to afford to travel to Ireland. It'll just have to be during the school holidays, and it'll probably like every other year or something like that.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: We go to Ireland a lot. Cause that's my whole family's there. We're very close with them. But then my dad got sick and I was. I and then there was a few events happened where I had to travel home during the school holidays and it was so expensive. It was twice as expensive to travel during the summer than it was during the school year.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: And I, if I go to visit my parents right now, I really want to bring my kids with me. I don't want it to just be me. If I go, it's going to be for a long chunk of time. I'm not going to leave my kids for five weeks. My [00:04:00] husband works full time. So I just got to the point where it was like, you Okay, if I'm going to, I have to try and go yearly now to see my parents.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: So there's a few factors involved here. I can't afford to go during the summer with three kids. I need to work because I can't afford to pay for yearly visit, visits to Ireland. Plus my kids want to, two of my children have special needs, so they need to be in, I'm paying for private school for them.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: So I had all of these financial strains, but also the practical strain of can't travel during the school year. And even the school I worked in was really awesome and understanding, and maybe I could have said, Hey, are you okay if I disappear for 5 weeks? They couldn't have paid me, right? I would have had to take that time off and not get paid.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: So that was the point where I had to change. I knew I needed to work. I knew I didn't want to work full time, but I also knew I needed to have control of my time because if I travel, I have to be able to work [00:05:00] during those time slots that suit me. The other part that I really wanted to do too, the other part that appealed to me about having my own business and having control over my time was, when I was working in the school on a regular schedule, I could never do field trips with my kids.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: I had to be in my position and then it couldn't, there was things I couldn't do on a volunteer level in my, with my kids school that I wanted to do. And then again, that was another kind of bonus of starting my own business. So then in March, 2023, that's when it all came to a head, when my dad got his official diagnosis and I was like, I have to make a change.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: And so I just jumped and quit my job. I didn't have a business established. I was working on it part time, but I just took the jump and decided to try and start my own business. So yeah, I, yeah, that's a leap of faith. Yeah. Yes. [00:06:00] It was a bit scary. I will be honest. One thing I did as a kind of a a net to catch me was we did have an Airbnb unit that we opened in our home.
Sara Mayer: Oh, okay. And so I was like,
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: yeah. So I said, if I can keep this Airbnb going, it gives me a little bit of income to make up for me not working. So that gives me time to see if I can make this business work.
Sara Mayer: Yeah.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: Yeah. So I started the business. It was quite interesting. I started the business, I started down the road of being a virtual assistant.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: And I found a mentor and got some training. And one of the things I struggled with at the beginning was the saturation of virtual assistants and the kind of jobs I wanted to do. And in my mind I was like like I like administrative work and this is just, I just need to make money, so I'm just going to, Just do whatever I can to replace the income I lost.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: So I was trying to find like niches here and there. I was going into Facebook groups. [00:07:00] I started working with teachers initially. I was a spec ed teacher. So creating teacher resources and that kind of stuff was not actually my strength. As a spec ed teacher, I spent a lot of my time doing administrative work, meeting with people, creating individualized education programs.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: Yes, I used materials, but the classroom setup was not the same. I was usually going into somebody's classroom or taking children out and working one on one in a small space. So actually that niche of being an executive assistant or a virtual assistant to teachers wasn't quite my strength. So towards what happened then was in, in September time, my Airbnb took off.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: I got guests for the entire semester because I live near university, but I was like, this is cool. And I thought do I really even need to do this VA thing? But I kept thinking, no, I don't want to just make sure I have a job because I know Airbnb isn't completely. [00:08:00] Trustworthy either, right?
Sara Mayer: Yeah.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: I could see as I got to the end of the fall, I wasn't getting more bookings for January. So I was like, no, I got to keep plugging away at this. And I ended up getting this one client that I worked with. The jobs he gave me, he was a business owner and the jobs he gave me were much more like administrative and almost like executive assistant.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: In that I was helping him at the beginning of each week to plan this week. And I was helping him to organize files and things like that. And I was like, I think I prefer this more to the creating resources thing, which is what a lot of virtual assistants will do. They'll create resources and files and things like that.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: Great task based. So I was working with this one, one guy. I wasn't getting a lot of work from him, but then I got a client who I just had him for a very short time. But he invited me to a networking group on zoom. I didn't even know those things existed. I was aware of [00:09:00] like in person ones and I had looked into going to one or two of them, but before I got to an actual in person one, I discovered this online one.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: I'm like, this is so cool. And I really enjoyed the group he introduced me to. But it was eight 30 in the morning. I am not an eight 30 in
Sara Mayer: the
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: morning. Yeah. And I just, and also my kids, that's exactly what my kids are getting ready for school. And so I'm like, Struggling to get to that one, but I noticed as I went through these, I went to this group every now and then I would meet someone and they would.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: I would connect with them on LinkedIn. I was trying to build my LinkedIn connections and some of them would actually want to have a one on one VC with me and I was like, Oh, that's cool. But I was also going into these VCs what am I doing here? Am I pitching this person?
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: I was like, I hate to, oh, I hate getting on calls and talking about like why you should use my services. I just don't like talking about myself and I find them so awkward. And but anyway, they're interesting. One person I reached out to, and instead of getting on a VC with me, he was like, Hey, [00:10:00] try out this networking group.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: So I was like, okay, cool. And I had been doing that. If someone invited me to a different networking group, I would go. I went to this one networking group. It was a local one to our town. But the minute I went into that group, I was blown away. Wow. By the energy, by the support by the even just people giving me ideas for how to network.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: And I joined this one. Now this one, this group was subscription based and I was like subscription based. I had not paid subscription for anything because I was making very little money at that time. But I was making enough money to cover the subscription. And I just got, I had a feeling. This group, I think is going to work.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: And I just, I said, okay, I'm going to, I'm going to give this a go, see if it works, and if I, if it opens doors, I'll stick with it. If it doesn't, I'll, I'll only give it the year. And then I'm gone. Cause you had to sign up. Yeah, it was like a
Sara Mayer: year.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: Wow. So I went, I did it. That again was a bit of a leap of [00:11:00] faith.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: Cause I, and then my first month in my one existing client, he ended up like, Offloading me. Cause he didn't have, he was clear. He didn't have work for me because he wasn't, I'm like, Oh my goodness. But so it was very funny. I lose that client. My Airbnb stops getting people into it. We literally had to reconfigure our finances.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: So like we, we contact the school and say, can we have our two months off right now? That kind of stuff. Yeah. And it was like, we were just see how are we going to get through these two months? Cause it was like, Airbnb just wasn't being booked. And then I was not getting clients, but after I had been in this networking group about a month, I got my first client
Sara Mayer: and
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: then I got another client.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: And then by April I was almost maxed out on clients. And that was, yeah, so that was the part that really blew the door open was finding the right group [00:12:00] and finding, learning how to network authentically and without being pitchy I learned how to get into a one on one and not talk about myself.
Sara Mayer: And
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: instead of, pitching, actually looking for referral partners, not clients. And that for me was like the magic sauce,
Sara Mayer: because
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: I ended up just organically people coming and saying, actually, I really need this.
Sara Mayer: Yeah. Would
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: you help me? So that was where the door opened. And now I'm at a point like where I have it, I have a lot of clients still developing my business quite a bit in terms of, even like what I charge people, how I'm managing my time, how I'm managing client work versus networking and all of that.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: It's a whole learning curve, but it's exciting. Yeah. Because I can solidly say a year in I have a business and I'm not depending on my Airbnb anymore. That's not my [00:13:00] goal. So
Sara Mayer: I want to go back because you said something that is really interesting. I think a lot of people when they first go into business, I know you took a leap of faith and jumped and quit your nine to five, but a lot of people think they need to know exactly what they want to do.
Sara Mayer: And what you talked about was trying out a lot of different things and realizing that, Oh, I don't want to do this. I don't want to create resources. I don't want to be task based. Can you talk a little bit about that? As you were trying these things, how did you really determine what you did and didn't want to do, even though you maybe didn't know at the point that you took the job, the client?
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: It is, I will be honest with you, it is a journey and I think it's really important for people to understand that and. I, like I said, I started as a virtual assistant, I have met countless people in my business connections now who started as a virtual assistant, figured out [00:14:00] what it was they actually are good at and changed their title.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: So I went to executive assistant. I know other people who've done other things, like they've become a social media manager or content creator or business manager. Yeah. So the, for me. It was great to have the mentors, right? So one of my virtual assistant mentors, her name's Erin Brutebooth, she's the one who suggested to look at what I've already done.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: So my background was teaching, right? And that's my profession. And I still think it's really important for me to lean on that because it gives me longevity and experience. So I then went, okay, teachers and went to the teacher part, but that, yeah, that didn't work for me. But what was interesting to me, and that's the other part of surrounding yourself with a network that's supportive and has and mentors you, like it was actually one of my current clients right now the CEO [00:15:00] of that group.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: I had a VC with him and the first thing he said to me, he's you're not a virtual assistant. You're an executive assistant. And I'm like, but he could see in me an energy and a motivation that an executive assistant has. And and as I walked down that path of. Yes I love this admin stuff, right?
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: But it's not just pencil pushing. It's actually partnering with my executive. To help them further their business. And part of that is relationship, right? And that's a huge thing for me that I love. I love building relationship with my client, understanding their needs and their wants and their passions, and then facilitating that by taking their the load from them, so that they can. They can do what they're really good at, right? And there's a [00:16:00] mindset in that, right? That I think is natural to my personality, but also the experience of having done, worked as a spec ed resource teacher, managing multiple schools, multiple students and multiple professionals.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: Because I would work with the teachers, the staff. The speech therapist, the occupational therapists. And I would pull together a team for one individual child. All of that experience really lends to what I would call my bespoke executive assistant services, my business. I, one of the pain points I find with a lot of business owners, when I talk to them, is they're like I've employed assistants, but they keep asking me questions.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: I tell them what to do, they keep asking asking me the same question over and over. I'm actually feeling like I have more work because I've brought on an assistant. And my point was to have less work. One of my policies, and one of the biggest things that helps me is, [00:17:00] I will under no circumstances, unless I literally have dug to the bottom of the hole and made sure I have.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: Overturned every stone. I am not texting them to say, where is something.
Sara Mayer: Yeah.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: In fact I will go to my phone and start the text. And that is the thing that will push me to find it. It's almost like this mental thing. Yeah, even like when you call
Sara Mayer: tech
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: support, all of
Sara Mayer: a sudden it gets figured
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: out. Yes, exactly.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: So like yesterday I had a client and I got something and I couldn't find it. The information wasn't there and I was about to write and say the file you sent me isn't correct and I had it written and I said, no I'm not doing that. And that is, I know that's weird. It seems obvious, but it's amazing how many of my clients just, that's what they, that's why they hire me.
Sara Mayer: Yeah. Because
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: they desperately need someone to just do it.
Sara Mayer: Yeah. To
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: get it done. And not have to be [00:18:00] spoon fed. And that's, and I think that is my background as being a teacher, my background as being a spec ed teacher has all fed into that, but it's something I've discovered by doing it. Yeah. I couldn't have told you a year ago.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: This is what I'm good at.
Sara Mayer: Yeah. You know what's really, I love, I really, I could talk to you all day. I love your story because there's so many gold nuggets in there. I think many people when they're thinking about leaving their. Nine to five or whatever they're doing now that they know is not where they want to be.
Sara Mayer: And they want to transition into business. They truly believe that it's like starting from scratch or starting over. And one of the things that you shared was you had all this experience from working with teachers and parents and higher ups and admins and just a lot of experience that you could then tap into when you were building your business.
Sara Mayer: And many times people forget that they do have all these skills out there. They're not a beginner at [00:19:00] everything. Yes. They may be a beginner entrepreneur, but they do have various levels of experience that they can use as they build their business.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. And even there's different levels of when you speak about intelligence, you've got academic intelligence. One of the big ones that I find in a lot of the people I interact with is their EQ, their emotional quotient is very high. And there are a lot of people in the business world who don't have that.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: And so you've got people who have a practical intelligence, just knowing how to figure out how to organize workflow or the, so each one of us has our own kind of intelligence, right? That we're good at, that we can pour into our business. But you have something to bring to the world of business that you can really be a support to a business owner.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: And I think that's the exciting thing of, about the [00:20:00] world of business right now is the amount of people, consultants, fractionals, who are coming together. To help support each other and build businesses and help people have freedom in their business. So it's not just these big corporations, who are running the show, but they're individual people supporting building businesses by collaborating together and bringing the skills that they have. So 100%. Every one of us have these strengths that are needed in the business world,
Sara Mayer: yeah. And so throughout this you referenced it as a journey and I agree that my business has been a journey as well throughout the journey.
Sara Mayer: How do you stay focused, motivated and not get off track with where you're going?
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: Yeah I very often, I do feel like I'm off track, especially late [00:21:00] lately as my business has started to boom. I always remind myself, and I actually talk to my husband a lot about this, we like to talk about business a lot.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: We both work remotely. I have my own business. He works in a corporation, but remotely, but I always try to remember why I'm doing this. What was my purpose in doing this? My purpose in working, first of all, was so that I could. Enable my family to do certain things. So I needed the money, I need the money to do that.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: I also need to keep top of mind the fact that I want this to be a part time thing,
Sara Mayer: which almost
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: seems like an anomaly, own a business, but work part time, right? And my thing my, my goal is always my family is first, right? And I also need to remember that it's my children and my husband, but I also I'm doing this so I can [00:22:00] be more available to my parents too.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: So I'm always trying to keep that top of mind. So I, if I find myself in a situation where that is is suffering. Because I'm pouring, let's say, so my children I'm forgetting to do stuff or I'm, neglecting certain things because I'm so busy with the job. I know then I have to stop and to reconfigure, how am I doing this?
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: And how do I, how do we do this better? So I'm still allowing that time to focus on them because we can get very so sucked into right, our jobs
Sara Mayer: and the
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: drive of that. So that's where I keep, I'll go back and revisit and I will go back and sit down and say, how can I structure my day now so that I am.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: Making this job, this business that I have do what I wanted it to do. So one of the, one of the things actually, one of the biggest things most recently I've been trying to use is I'm using like the, a notion workplace tool. Ooh, I love notion. [00:23:00] Yeah. Yeah, so I've been, that's been fun for me and I've been learning that.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: And so initially I've set it up for my business and I'm still working on that, just tightening up like working work blocks and stuff like that. I, and I, what I plan on doing now is incorporating a family planning into that as well so that I'm not forgetting the things I need to do. For the school and for afterschool and things like that.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: And I'm also doing it so that my husband is in there and that we both know what's happening and we can both support that. I am going to use it hardcore over the summer. My kids aren't going to a ton of camps over the summer. I'm going to be around and I'm going to be working with them.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: One thing that's been a huge learning curve for me is knowing my best work times.
Sara Mayer: So I
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: have learned actually that I'm not great for work. My brain does not work as well in the morning and a most, a very recent thing that I discovered is around like [00:24:00] one 30, that's when I suddenly get into this work drive where I could sit down and get a ton of stuff done.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: So I talked to my husband it's weird. Our kids aren't on vacation yet. They have another week of school, but I said to him, okay, we need to plan in September. You're going to do school pickup.
Sara Mayer: Yeah.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: Because if you do scoop pickup, I don't have to drop that work flow card. And he's totally on board with that.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: He's yeah, a hundred percent. He said, I can arrange my day so that I can do that. And that means you got work done during that, that best time period for you. So
Sara Mayer: yeah, for me, it's Six o'clock at night to nine. It's so bizarre.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: I will do that too. Like I, I will do. And the, but the problem for me, six to nine is when my kids are home. That's what kills me. If my, now in the summer, it's going to be great, right? Because I, I will spend the morning with them and I'll do all those things. But I can, I would be like you like six to nine, I'll get a ton done, but I need to stop at nine. What's happening to me.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: And this is part of my journey. What's happening to me is I'm going further later because I'm not [00:25:00] really starting until my kids are going to bed. Yeah. But yeah, it was interesting cause I think we all just assume that we work. We should work from nine to five.
Sara Mayer: Yeah. Yeah. So if you were to go back and do it all over again, what's maybe something you would do differently?
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: What I would do is I would first and foremost find a really good networking group and get people around you because yes, the networking group has been great for opening doors for me, but it's also brought me friends and colleagues. Who are walking the same path and we support each other. Like yesterday, like we, we have this networking group with three of us have become really good friends and we message each other on LinkedIn.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: We've never met in person. Yesterday, all three of us went into the group and we all like had these like life issues that were just getting us down and all three of us were like, literally like threw all these gold nuggets of advice at each other. And it was just, It was just lovely just [00:26:00] to know I can come and go, ah, like I messed this up or this is driving me crazy.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: And so it's both the emotional support, but also just that ability to grow your business. And if you can find a networking group that is more like a mastermind where people get together to learn, that's gold because for me, I worked for years, but I was not a business person. And I feel like I have just learned so much from people around me.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: The other thing I highly recommend is learn. When people tell you to do something and they have years of business experience, try it.
Sara Mayer: Yeah. And the key there is to try it. A lot of times entrepreneurs in the beginning, and even as they go on, they consume all this learning and knowledge, but. Your key phrase is, try it, like you need to take action on it.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: There was a couple of tips given to me at the beginning [00:27:00] of this year, and I just said, fine, I'm doing it.
Sara Mayer: Yeah.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: Because I don't have anything else. I have one client, I have nothing else to do. Yeah. So I did, I poured myself into those tips and they opened the doors for me. Yeah. They worked, right?
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: So I'm like, so now I'm like, you know what? Someone gives you a tip, give it a go. Try it.
Sara Mayer: I love it. Right now
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: sometimes it won't work, but if people have years of business experience, I just feel like they're worth listening to.
Sara Mayer: Yeah,
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: exactly. So yeah but yeah and to be honest, I, yeah, so I, I said I would do the networking, but make those intimate, authentic connections with people because that trust aspect is so important, even in following advice, right?
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: Listening up on a stage is whatever. If you're talking to someone, someone who's experienced in business, you can actually bounce ideas off them.
Sara Mayer: Yeah, exactly.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: And yeah, so finding those people for me has been huge.
Sara Mayer: Yeah. Awesome. I just love this conversation and I love that you have been able to [00:28:00] take some leaps of faith, but also be really intentional about what you're creating.
Sara Mayer: And I know that you work with a lot of different clients. So if somebody was interested in learning more about what you do or working with you, where might they find you and what might they expect?
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: Yeah I mostly connect and network on LinkedIn, so my LinkedIn profile is where you're going to see me and what I do connecting with me.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: I usually will start with it with a call a discovery call and usually, Those calls are typically networking calls and if you're interested in working with me at that point, you can say, Hey, I'm interested in that. Then that's where I will usually discuss my packaging and how I price things is very bespoke to clients.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: It is based on certain tasks, but also I have clients who do want me to do something very different. So we just figure that out together. Then I if a client is [00:29:00] interested in working with me, we'll go on and do a 1 hour. Complementary determination of needs call. So that's how that's and then after that we work through the contract, what I do a lot of work in actually is helping with lead generation, finding podcast opportunities for clients who are looking to work on their brand image and marketing.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: I have a very wide connection of people in branding, marketing, social media, content creation, who I typically work with to connect my clients with and I, yeah, so I found myself to be in that area in that world a lot is clients who are looking to expand their marketing and their brand branding.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: But I've also worked, I've worked with clients in every area. What I would say is if you are an executive who really just wants to hand stuff over to someone and not think about it, [00:30:00] then I'm your person, you're not going to hear from me. Unless we're like, unless things are, unless I really need information, you're not going to get, you're not going to get emergency messages from me.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: Basically. That is one thing I just won't do. And I am a very kind of independent self motivated worker who believes very strongly on me supporting you and not you supporting me.
Sara Mayer: Oh, I love it. I've enjoyed this conversation. I love what you've built. And I think the biggest thing is really trying things out and figuring out what works throughout the journey.
Sara Mayer: So thank you so much for being on the show. Such a great conversation. And I know we'll be connecting in the future. I feel that I have some things for you down the line.
Sharon O'Sullivan Fung: Thank you. Sorry. It's been so great to be on the show. Thank you for having me.
Sara Mayer: Yeah. All right. Bold gold crushers. It's time to crush your goals and everything that gets in the way because you do not need to work double time.
Sara Mayer: So let's get to it.
