Ep. 197 Save time in your business by creating systems & automations with guest Natalie Guzman
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Sara Mayer: [00:00:00] Welcome to the bold goal crusher podcast for anyone looking to stop letting life get in the way and start crushing bold goals. I'm your host, Sara Mayer, and I'm thrilled to navigate this journey with you because it's time to start boldly achieving without working double time. So let's dive in.
Sara Mayer: Hello, bold gold crushers. I'm super excited for this episode. I think you're really going to enjoy our conversation. So without further ado, let me introduce you to my guest in 2015. Natalie received news from her job that she would only have two days to give birth and then go back to work. And you heard that correctly two days to give birth and then go back to work.
Sara Mayer: Instead of accepting this, Natalie decided to take control of her situation. And she started her own virtual [00:01:00] assistant business, which allowed her to work from home and earn money in a way that suited her. Her business grew quickly. And within just three months, it was making over six. Figures. Natalie didn't stop there.
Sara Mayer: She expanded her entrepreneurial endeavors and now owns Nadora, a software company that helps businesses easily create websites, emails, and automations without having to spend hundreds of dollars on multiple systems and platforms. Natalie manages to balance her successful career with her personal life, raising her family in Southwest Florida through her inspiring speeches.
Sara Mayer: She motivates others by showing them what determination, resilience, and unwavering passion we can make our dreams come true. Oh my gosh. I'm so excited to have you on the show. I know I've read your bio a couple of times and every time I've read it, I'm like, wow, this is [00:02:00] someone who truly is resilient. So welcome to the show.
Sara Mayer: Hey,
Natalie Guzman: thank you. I'm so excited to be here.
Sara Mayer: So I would be remiss if I didn't kick it off with your job gave you two days. To have a baby and then come back,
Natalie Guzman: let's talk about that. A little backstory to that, we were actually trying for a family and we kept having multiple miscarriages. And I was already a high risk pregnancy, so I did wait a little bit to tell them because I have a history.
Natalie Guzman: miscarriages. So once I was in that safe zone of pregnancy, I told my job and then in return, yes, they told me I had two days to give birth and then I have to go back to work because I had only been working there for under a year. In Florida, you don't qualify for the paid leave until you've been working there for a whole year.
Natalie Guzman: But in that time working there, I had been promoted within three months. Of working at that job, I was, my numbers were some of the best in the company, but in the end it didn't matter to 'em. [00:03:00]
Sara Mayer: Wow. So two days I don't even know that kind of works like that, but
Natalie Guzman: I was barely in the ho at the hospital.
Natalie Guzman: I think I would have to literally
Sara Mayer: go from the hospital straight to work. So that happened. You're obviously in a company that didn't. Align with your values and you decided like that day okay, I'm going to leave this job. Or how did that kind of
Natalie Guzman: work? I think it was more like, I really felt like my safety was put in jeopardy.
Natalie Guzman: My daughter was actually born at two pounds. So that can give you an idea about how high risk it was. We had 12 people in the delivery room. I thought that was normal until I had my son. So I didn't realize you only have two staff on hand in the. Delivery room. Normally I like 12.
Natalie Guzman: They had a team for me and the team for the baby and a team for whatever else was needed. And it wasn't even a C section. So that kind of tells you right [00:04:00] there. Just how high risk it was. And I think when I heard when they told me that first, it was a lot of people asked me, it was a woman or a man.
Natalie Guzman: It was a woman. She didn't have kids. I don't know if that necessarily matters. I feel like it's more humane thing. But that's one of the biggest questions I get about it. But for me, I was like, instantly oh, man, my family's health and safety has been put at risk. Because not only our financial, but also our mental and physical well being is being put at risk with me having to return to work within two days.
Natalie Guzman: And I probably would have gotten written up if I decided to stay, and then if I had too many write ups, I'd be let off. But I didn't even want to go down that route, because if you're going to have that much control over my family's being, I don't want a part of it. And I just felt like it was the wrong thing to continue with.
Natalie Guzman: As a new mom is this big responsibility. I had on my plate. And I couldn't worry about it, but we desperately needed money. [00:05:00] So I was like, what can I do at home? If my baby, cause I was, I'm one of those OCD people. I plan for everything. And so even the things that might not happen. So I was like if my daughter has health issues we're probably have lots of doctor visits.
Natalie Guzman: We're probably I'm not going to be able to work. If she has significant health issues. And so I was like, what can I do from home? That could even maybe do from a hospital. We have to say, and I Nick you or anything like that. And I just researched to stay at home mom jobs or a sale. Yeah. And, it was, I found virtual assistant. I was like, this is everything I was doing at my old job. I could definitely do this. And I fell in love with it. And I actually got my first client while in labor which was super exciting. And I also signed for a house, our first house. Wall in labor, the realtor poor guy had to come up to our labor and delivery room to sign
Sara Mayer: paperwork.
Sara Mayer: Wow. Good for you. I know that [00:06:00] it's so hard sometimes when you're like, okay, this is not a line, but I want to do something to actually be able to make that move. Like for many people, it's money that stands in the way and for you to be able to just go in and say, all right, I'm going to create something else that could truly.
Sara Mayer: Change your life and now you have a thriving business. So you worked with a virtual assistants for how long do you still work with them
Natalie Guzman: as well? Yeah, it's still a thriving business. So I turned it into a virtual assistant agency called the NG virtual assistant. And we, I did it. So I found how most businesses start, right?
Natalie Guzman: We, or we evolve is we find the need and we want to fulfill that. And one of the needs I found was that people are really getting overwhelmed with overseas virtual assistants. And number two was that they were so overwhelmed by working with so many people. And they felt like they had to keep tabs on everyone or find a [00:07:00] perfect executive assistant.
Natalie Guzman: It was just like, it was really hard for them to find all the team members. I was taking so much time. So my agency is a little different where they get a project manager and the project manager will take down the tasks and to do's and we'll create the systems and processes to help the client.
Natalie Guzman: And then they will delegate to our team. So we already have a team that works really well together. And they know how to get things done on time. We have our own SOPs and processes and so it makes everything a lot more streamlined. So they're not having to recreate the process that we already created.
Natalie Guzman: So is a thriving business. And then the 2nd need I saw was that entrepreneurs. Didn't have systems that connected to each other. So they would ask us to set up automations, which we love to do. And, but they had calendarly over here. They had MailChimp over here. They had active campaign. They had Wix and none of them were connecting.
Natalie Guzman: And then you could use like Zapier for some things to connect [00:08:00] them all, but it was costing them a lot of money. And so we invented an Adora, which is like an all one system for entrepreneurs. Great. Everything their websites, landing pages, email marketing, text campaigns, social media, scheduling, unlimited calendars, does everything in one while providing networking support and education as well.
Sara Mayer: Oh, that's great. What I love about this is that you went from a place where your liberties and freedoms and ability to take care of your family was like, Controlled by somebody else, but now you've created an agency that allows other people to get all those things back freedom and all those things.
Sara Mayer: And I love that parallel for you because many times people are in those situations and they don't. End up creating something like that. So that's awesome. I want to talk a little bit about business owners, because I know when [00:09:00] entrepreneurs are out there, they are trying to do all the things. And if you've listened to the podcast, which I know you have that.
Sara Mayer: We really preach, create streamlined systems so you don't have to work all the time and you hit on a little nerve with me when you're like all this tech and you're trying to connect it all and you end up paying. A lot more. Yeah. So how do you work with businesses to really streamline those operations?
Sara Mayer: Like what's the first step?
Natalie Guzman: Obviously I love referring to Dora, so that's sometimes my first step if they don't already have the system in process or if they're paying thousands of dollars. Because it's cheap compared to what most people are paying. The 2nd thing is really writing a list of everything you're doing.
Natalie Guzman: And then looking at the software's you already own. For instance, a lot of people. Half softwares, they don't realize the full capabilities and features on them. And like [00:10:00] for us and our system, what we just realized, even me and what I've been doing this for years, this is what I specialize in. I just realized that I have Slack and I have Basecamp.
Natalie Guzman: So Basecamp is my project management tool. Slack I use for communication with my team. But you can do the same things on Slack that you can do on Basecamp. At least what I was using it for communication. So that would save me like 70 a month if I just switched over to Basecamp. And so it's like really understanding what you're doing and what you're using it with and what do you already own.
Natalie Guzman: So if you do, if you're in love with their stuff, I would recommend. really researching your programs and finding out every update they've done recently. Find out, what can you do and what can't you do on it? And that will help you really streamline your process and also automations. You need to have automations in your business.
Natalie Guzman: I say 28 hours a week and automations. We actually typed [00:11:00] it out with a verse, one of our virtual assistants. And so everything, my check ins with my clients, my welcome emails, my contracts, everything is done with just me hitting one click of a button.
Sara Mayer: I love it. One of the things that I have learned in the tech space that I've been in is that many times they have beta groups and they're always looking for feedback.
Sara Mayer: And if you can get into one of those groups. Some of the things that you may be like, Oh, I need this other piece of software because this doesn't do that. Actually, you can influence those things coming about, or maybe there's other people out there that have also experienced that. And if you can get in some of those beta groups, I've found those to be really informative and helpful because sometimes they are working on whatever you're thinking about as well.
Sara Mayer: They just need people to test it out. Yeah,
Natalie Guzman: it's definitely I love like I always recommend [00:12:00] having surrounding yourself with other entrepreneurs is huge. I actually was at dinner last night with a whole group of them that I met and. Just the ideas that you can get in their experience is so valuable, but also remembering the pick and choose.
Natalie Guzman: So you listen. So just because they recommend something doesn't mean necessarily you should go after it. So I would say definitely listen to what they're saying and listen to what they're not saying. Ask questions, get curious, and then make a decision. What's best for your company. Cause we can go down a rabbit hole.
Natalie Guzman: If I chase I'm like one of those people that loves tech. And so if someone recommends a new tech to me, I'm learning everything I can about it and like super interested in it. But it wastes a lot of time sometimes.
Sara Mayer: And you might also already have the tech that they're recommending. You just haven't used that feature.
Sara Mayer: Exactly. So many of my listeners are new entrepreneurs or they're sitting in a cube knowing that's [00:13:00] not where they want to be and they want to move out of that cube or even their corner office. I have people who are doing really well and sitting in the corner office and they're like, this is not where I want to be.
Sara Mayer: But if somebody is new on that journey of building a business, what are the things that you recommend tech wise or the essentials that they would need to get
Natalie Guzman: started? It's actually something that's not necessarily tech and that's your S. O. P. S. Your standard operating procedures. I feel like before you implement or do any type of tech, you should have an S.
Natalie Guzman: O. P. on how you want things done because these steps will help, if the tech is right for you if you can implement what you want to do on this tech. So it's really important in a standard operating Procedure also known as SOP. It's just, it's a series of steps in for everything you do in your business.
Natalie Guzman: And it's exactly how you want it done, when you want it done, who you want to do [00:14:00] it. It's it's your manual, right? For your business. And I think a lot of entrepreneurs don't take the time to sit down and figure that out before they start creating. So they end up making a lot of mistakes or they're buying unnecessary tech because it doesn't relate to what they're trying to do.
Natalie Guzman: And so it's really important just to have a clear thought out plan and taking that time to really understand what you're trying to do and how you want to do it instead of just creating it on the tech and then figuring it out from there, it costs a lot more and it ends up making a lot more
Sara Mayer: mistakes.
Sara Mayer: Yeah, I agree. I think so many times. As well, we create these businesses and we start off as a sole entrepreneur. That was my biggest challenge. When I went from corporate America, I had 25 people. So if I had a wild idea, I'd walk out. I'd be like, Hey, we're going to do this. I'd go to my next meeting.
Sara Mayer: I'd come back and they were already halfway figured it out. But being a sole entrepreneur, there were so many things that were in my head. And when [00:15:00] I hired my first person. I was like, Oh, you just do this. And she's what? Nothing was written. So what's a good way to start that SOP? What do you think are the core things that need to be in
Natalie Guzman: there?
Natalie Guzman: Ooh, that's a great question. So the 1st ones I start with is your lead generation and your client onboarding because that is what's going to set up your company for success in the beginning, because it's how you get clients and how you keep clients. And so those are the 2 that I would really focus on 1st.
Natalie Guzman: And you can always, Hire people to even create these SOPs for you, and then make sure you review it though, and then you make sure it's how you like it, because I think sometimes we rely on people to create things for us, and we're not actually checking it. And so it's really important that we just make sure that we 100 percent agree with the process and systems, and we understand them as the owner as well.
Natalie Guzman: But the, so for [00:16:00] lead generation, who's your ideal client? Where can they be found? How old are they? What gender? What do they do for work? And then going into where are they, on the digital space, if that's how you're getting your clients, or like, how are you going to get them? So are you going to go to events and show your product or service at events?
Natalie Guzman: Are you going to do social media? Are you going to do PPC ads paid per click? So like Google or Facebook ads how are you going to attract customers? Are you going to have a referral program? There's just so much in lead generation that you could do. And I wouldn't put it all in one document. I wouldn't.
Natalie Guzman: Segregate them into different documents in that way, because eventually, as your business grows, you're going to have to hand off certain tasks to certain team members. They're not going to be doing every single job, so having them broken down is really good. And then with client retention is in client onboarding is.
Natalie Guzman: When do [00:17:00] they receive an email, which please automate that it's so easy to me and welcome email. Don't make it harder on yourself. Automate that. And how are they? Are you doing like a discovery call? Is that purchase page? All that can be automated. And then. Following up with the client I found has had great success for client retention.
Natalie Guzman: Even if you're like following up as a CEO, I automate that. I do quarterly check ins with all our clients, even though I don't work with the clients one on one. I say, Hey, I'm your CEO. How are you doing? How are you liking it? Is there anything that we could do better? Or do you need help with? And it just makes them feel like they're part of something bigger, a community.
Natalie Guzman: They are being checked in. They're not just being handed off to their project manager and then suffering on their own, right? So I think just those little touches. I know a company recently sent me a little postcard and said, thanks for having a call with us. Sounds like that's. So sweet. I was like, it just felt like a huge, like community.
Natalie Guzman: I'm think this year is my [00:18:00] year to focus on building a community within my business and doing those little touches are so important. So writing all those steps down is definitely gonna set you up for
Sara Mayer: success. Yeah. And I love that idea of putting it all to paper, even if you don't have it all figured out yet, like you may not be able to implement it all, but here's the goal of where we're trying to drive to so that we can do this.
Sara Mayer: As many of I come from a nonprofit background, so we work a lot with donors and we call that a stewardship plan. Like how are we stewarding our donors? And when they start to. to donate more money. Maybe it's a different threshold when they become a client for a year, maybe sending an email that says, congratulations on our work of anniversary.
Sara Mayer: So there's so many great ways to really touch the people that we work with besides becoming transactional. And I think that's the key.
Natalie Guzman: Yeah, [00:19:00] definitely. It just, it restores their faith in you. It reminds them of you. Actually, we end up getting more business because they're like, oh, yeah I, a lot of our stuff is run on autopilot because they've given us a task and we just do them all the time.
Natalie Guzman: And so they'll be like. I forgot I actually have a task. I need to hand off to them and that postcard or whatnot reminds them. So it does increase business as well. And then when you make someone feel like they're part of a community, and they're loyal. The biggest thing you're going to get out of that is referrals.
Natalie Guzman: And that is what that cycle of getting a client and having them refer more and more. That's what's going to make you level up and grow really quick. That's how my business hit six figures in three months was because of referrals. I got seven clients on my own within a week, and then they all referred people.
Natalie Guzman: And so that is how my business really grew. And they just kept coming and coming. And now we get a referral at least every week, if not multiple times a [00:20:00] week.
Sara Mayer: Going back to how you're going to get clients, you got those referrals because you did a good job and you took care of people.
Sara Mayer: And so creating those systems to ensure that you're able to do that and staying true to the core of what you want your business to be is critical. So many entrepreneurs always ask about tech. So if you were setting up your business today, what are maybe the two things that you couldn't live without?
Sara Mayer: Ooh, a good
Natalie Guzman: funnel. So I feel like like a good funnel. So a landing page that brings your customer through a series of steps is super, super important. I feel like we've we've put a lot of time into that. Cause we also create those for our clients and that's how an Adora came about.
Natalie Guzman: But I've just seen the power of a really good funnel and how it can really. You can close people really quickly. If [00:21:00] you put the time and effort into making the funnel really systematic. And then 2, I would have to say automations because when I couldn't hire people, and I was working a lot of hours, I was automations are probably what saved me because I think there's a difference between.
Natalie Guzman: Doing all the work and then doing all the works in a smart way. Because sometimes we're like, Oh, our to do list is a hundred feet long and we don't take that time to just think it through and we just do the tasks, right? And we just try to get them done really quick. If you actually sat, take an hour to go through that to do list and you figure out what can you automate?
Natalie Guzman: What can you give away? What do you need to keep? You're gonna save yourself so much time, stress, you're not gonna make as much mistakes. You're gonna actually be able to be present with your clients. And I think that was something that I really had to learn. And automations are really what pushed my business.
Natalie Guzman: And I have both the funnels and the [00:22:00] automations on Adora. I've tried them on a different, a lot of different platforms. But n Nado has been what I stick to
Sara Mayer: for those. And what's really interesting is I had a guest and I'm probably going to butcher this stat, but he said that we write the same, basically the same email hundreds of times a year.
Sara Mayer: And even if you can't afford the tech to automate. Keep some of those emails that you write over and over again in a Word doc, and you can automate it yourself. Like we, we used to call that duct tape and bandaid process, but if you just had a Word doc with some of the emails you frequently send, I can't imagine how much time that would save me.
Sara Mayer: Especially at the beginning.
Natalie Guzman: Yeah. And you can even do templates. So if you use Gmail, so if you can't do get automation software, you can make those emails into templates and Gmail, and then you can just hit a little button and it'll autofill that template. That's what I did before I got [00:23:00] into automations.
Natalie Guzman: Oh, and it saved me so much time. And I just made sure, make sure you edit it because it's so easy not to have like the XXX and not fill their name in.
Sara Mayer: Yeah. Or you're like, please do this by June. And they're like, it's September. Yeah, exactly. I got a lot of time to do that, but yeah, I agree with you.
Sara Mayer: Automations definitely have changed my business. And I think the cool part about it is. It's kept me doing what is more my zone of genius, which is strategy and operations. My mindset is better because I'm not like, Oh, I have to write this email. I have to figure out what to say and all that stuff. Now there's a lot of talk out there about AI chat, GPT and all the things.
Sara Mayer: What are your thoughts on the AI softwares? Yeah,
Natalie Guzman: I just had a [00:24:00] really good meeting. I told you I was with a bunch of entrepreneurs last night. We're talking about it. And it's interesting because someone brought up the fact that chat actually gives incorrect information now when it used to not.
Natalie Guzman: So I'm not, I'm looking into that and researching more. But I love using charge UBT for like brainstorming. So I don't necessarily use it to replace our work. But I do use it to help support it. A lot of times when I'm trying to create different strategies or marketing plans or pitch decks or any of that, like the operation side of things, I use ChatGP just to help me guide me through those steps.
Natalie Guzman: And I am. But I think there's still a lot to be said for human interaction. And as much as I love automations and what we can do with automations, we should use it in a way that humanizes us still because now anyone can see I know when I read a website, I can tell if it has chat GPT text on it.
Natalie Guzman: Even if they change the [00:25:00] tone and how it said but. I really using I have someone that uses a automation tool to send voicemails to check in with people or voice messages. And so it's the same voice message every time. But because it's a voice message, it humanizes it and we don't realize it.
Natalie Guzman: So I think just keeping I think there's. A time and place for A. I. And I think it's a game changer for entrepreneurship, but we just can't forget that the reason people come to us is because we are humans. And especially, we have social media is huge right now. And tick tock. And the reason why a lot of people on tick tock went viral is because it was real raw.
Natalie Guzman: Videos of people and their thoughts, their passions and what they love to do. And I just seen, I even have a prediction that eventually logos are going to come, are going to go away and it's going to be people's faces. So that's actually, yeah, cause you heard
Sara Mayer: it, you heard it here first.
Natalie Guzman: That's my [00:26:00] prediction, y'all.
Natalie Guzman: I'm spreading that far and wide, so contact me when it comes true. But I believe it's going to be people's faces because especially after pandemic, we just want to connect with people. We want to support other people. We don't. The supporting larger companies and, chains are slowly dying.
Natalie Guzman: If you actually look at the analytics and stuff especially with all the prices now a days, but actually smaller business, even though the smaller businesses do have a higher price, they're actually increasing every year in revenue. And I think a lot of that is that we want to support and connect with, the fellow person.
Sara Mayer: Yeah. And I do use chat GPT in my business, similar to you. I use it for a lot of brainstorming. And if many of our listeners have listened to my podcast and they know I'm not a fan of smart goals. And so many times I think chat GPT plays it safe because they'll Say, Oh, put your goals in a smart [00:27:00] format.
Sara Mayer: And they spit out all the stuff that other people have spit out. And it doesn't have my true authentic thoughts and views on goal setting. And so I do use it for brainstorming. I can't use it out of the box because obviously it'll. People would be like, wait a minute. I thought she doesn't like smart goals.
Sara Mayer: And here's a whole article on smart goals. So I think it's a great use of a tool and going back to your whole theme is that create use tools that help you save time and money. And sometimes. I'm not sure like what topics I should have for my podcast chat to GPT comes up with some great potential topics.
Sara Mayer: Or if I'm trying to title a podcast and I'm like, yeah, the titles are great. So I think it's really about learning the tool and making sure that you're staying true to yourself.
Natalie Guzman: And I think a lot also making sure you're using tone. So if you [00:28:00] are having him write for you like you said, like with podcast titles, I do that as well.
Natalie Guzman: And I make sure that I am telling it to put it in a tone. So I usually say a friendly, upbeat tone with easy to understand words. I think that's how I do it. But if you hear me talk during this podcast episode, you can tell I am very upbeat. I am definitely an extrovert. And I like to talk in words that other people can understand and so they can more easily connect with me.
Natalie Guzman: So that's what I use with chat TV. And it does work, but I wouldn't necessarily do I wouldn't let it create an email for me. I wouldn't let it create a blog, maybe a podcast title. I would probably have it write a description and then edit it. Because I usually like the bones of it, but I don't, like you said, it just doesn't, it's missing that one aspect.
Natalie Guzman: That's me. And so that's where I'd have to go in and humanize it. Yeah.
Sara Mayer: I had to do something really cool for me the other day. I received [00:29:00] an email from somebody that I received multiple emails from. In the email chain, it has multiple emails and one of the emails I was like, Ooh, it.
Sara Mayer: Is this a good email or not? Cause she used a word that I was like, that could go either way. And so I pasted it into chat GPT at, with all the other emails. And I was like, what do you think is the tone of this email? And they were like, this person is busy and just wants this done. And is And it was very helpful because I was like, all right, they're not really mad.
Sara Mayer: And I responded and, did the thing that she had asked. And she's sorry if my, and I didn't say anything about her email. And she's sorry, if my last email was short, I was driving and talking to email, which I probably shouldn't have been doing. So there you go. But I felt a certain sort of way about the email and then I was like, all right, I'm just going to get this done and then I hope we're okay.
Sara Mayer: And that was [00:30:00] really what it was.
Natalie Guzman: I think that's one thing I had to learn about working with so many clients because a lot of my clients are high anxiety and high ADHD too. And so a lot of the stuff they want done quick, but maybe like they're only asking for five hours a week at work or something.
Natalie Guzman: But they want everything done now, but you only have five hours of work. And so one of the things that I had to learn really quickly was like, okay, when they send me like an email or a text message or whatever that is short and maybe a little, maybe could be borderline rude. And I just have to be like, it's okay.
Natalie Guzman: Because at the end of the day, it's a business and it's going to be okay. If they're disappointed, someone doesn't like my services, not everyone's going to, that's okay. We're just not right for each other. And I've actually given recommendations to other VA's and VA companies because I believe this so much that, at the end of the day, I'm We're really good at what we do.
Natalie Guzman: Sometimes our prices [00:31:00] aren't right. Maybe some of our VAs aren't right in personality, or maybe we're just not what the client needs. And that's 100 percent okay. And but I love that you put the tone into chat, GVT, because I'm actually going to tell my staff to do that because a lot of them, they care about the business so much and I love them for it, but they get so emotional about responses they receive.
Natalie Guzman: And I'm like, it's not that big a deal. They're just saying they want it done because if there's a deadline coming up, this is a normal reaction. Like it's okay for them to have anxiety. It's a deadline. I think that's really cool that you did that. I'm definitely going to tell them to try that out so they can see what their real tone is too.
Sara Mayer: And it was so dead on too. Cause after she responded, she was like, Hey, sorry, I was driving and talking to email. I'm like, okay. That's why it came off like very crisp. That's hilarious. Anyway, so I just love this conversation. I could actually talk to you all day [00:32:00] about automations and systems and things to make our lives easier.
Sara Mayer: If a listener's listening and they're like, how do I connect with her? How would they best connect with you? And what might they expect?
Natalie Guzman: Yeah, so the best way to connect me is probably on social media. I am on pretty much every other, every social media platform you can find, but TikTok and Instagram and Facebook are my main 3.
Natalie Guzman: It's Natalie Guzman. You can find it anywhere. And, we I love giving tips on there for entrepreneurs. I talk a lot about s. O. P. S. or sometimes just talking about the overwhelm that can happen as an entrepreneur and any tips, tricks, softwares. Automations and so much more.
Natalie Guzman: And then you can also if you go to nadora. org and you mentioned this podcast, you can actually get two weeks free and of nadora and check it out, see if it works for you. And then my virtual assistant agency is ngvirtualassistant. [00:33:00] com.
Sara Mayer: Awesome. And we'll link all those in the show notes.
Sara Mayer: I've just loved this conversation and I thank you for being on the show today. And again, I could talk to you all
Natalie Guzman: day. Same here. Thank you so much, Sara.
Sara Mayer: All right. Bold goal crushers. It's time to crush your goals and everything that gets in the way. So you don't have to work double time. So let's get to it.
Sara Mayer: Thank you for tuning into the bold goal crusher podcast where we crush goals and everything that gets in the way. I always love to support my community.
Sara Mayer: I look forward to seeing you crush your goals this year.
